New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby Arbuckle23 » Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:13 pm

What's the latest with Fly 12CE's? Any more problems cropping up.
I am looking to go to a front camera as well.
Looking around, it seems that the alternatives are thin on the ground.

My replaced Fly6CE is working fine now and I am happy enough.
Dealing with Cycliq was painful though. Pushys were again extremely helpful.
I would by a Fly12CE through them because of that alone.

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby jasonc » Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:42 pm

Arbuckle. alternatives are near non-existent. I'll be replacing my original Fly12 next year due to the battery degrading. I'll buy a Fly12CE

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby biker jk » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:11 pm

I sold my Fly12 and bought Drift Ghost X which has been very good. There's now a Drift Ghost XL Full Power with claimed nine hours of battery life and is waterproof right out of the box (no special case is required).

https://www.camzilla.com.au/drift-ghost-xl-full-power

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby Arbuckle23 » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:18 pm

biker jk wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:11 pm
I sold my Fly12 and bought Drift Ghost X which has been very good. There's now a Drift Ghost XL Full Power with claimed nine hours of battery life and is waterproof right out of the box (no special case is required).

https://www.camzilla.com.au/drift-ghost-xl-full-power
I was reading up on the Drift Ghost XL.
Some of the reviews are far from positive!

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby biker jk » Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:15 pm

Arbuckle23 wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:18 pm
biker jk wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:11 pm
I sold my Fly12 and bought Drift Ghost X which has been very good. There's now a Drift Ghost XL Full Power with claimed nine hours of battery life and is waterproof right out of the box (no special case is required).

https://www.camzilla.com.au/drift-ghost-xl-full-power
I was reading up on the Drift Ghost XL.
Some of the reviews are far from positive!
The Drift Ghost X is highly rated and the XL uses the same processor so the complaints about picture quality see strange. I'm very happy with picture quality, no different to the Fly 12. Admittedly, battery life is not what is stated, so I get around four hours rather than claimed five. I have a proper mount so don't need image stabilsation.

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby jasonc » Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:28 pm

With the drift you still need a light

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby biker jk » Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:35 pm

jasonc wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:28 pm
With the drift you still need a light
Indeed, you can run a proper front light and not kill the camera's battery life as with the Fly12.

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby jasonc » Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:49 pm

biker jk wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:35 pm
jasonc wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:28 pm
With the drift you still need a light
Indeed, you can run a proper front light and not kill the camera's battery life as with the Fly12.
I have enough stuff mounted on my bike

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby Arbuckle23 » Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:02 pm

biker jk wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:15 pm
The Drift Ghost X is highly rated and the XL uses the same processor so the complaints about picture quality see strange. I'm very happy with picture quality, no different to the Fly 12. Admittedly, battery life is not what is stated, so I get around four hours rather than claimed five. I have a proper mount so don't need image stabilsation.
Been watching more reviews, seems most of the complaints about the Ghost XL are regarding the external microphone connection, not the picture quality. Do you have photos of how you have mounted your X ? And any video samples?

jasonc.
I know what you you mean about too much stuff on your bike. But I do have a good 850 lumen front light that I like a lot.
The Drift Ghost XL tempts for battery life, could run it for an entire 100 km or so ride (even 200 km) and not worry about battery life.

But any input from others using the Fly12CE would be great.
How many hours using light on constant while filming, compared to how many hours on flash?
Any problems cropped up?

Got the chief of home finance on side, so looking to buy in any Boxing Day sales I can find a bargain on :)

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby Arbuckle23 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:49 pm

What are you all using for mounting the Fly12CE?
I use a Garmin 1030 and would be keen to mount a Fly12CE (or something else :D ) underneath.
K-Edge reckon their XL combi mount can't handle the weight of a Fly12.
Is anyone using the K-Edge XL without it breaking?

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby jasonc » Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:32 pm

I'm using a k-edge xl with a 1030 and fly12 (original)

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby Shpox » Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:46 pm

Hey guys, so I just finished the setup on my Propel. Initial impressions of the setup aren't great.

Here are thoughts so far... This still feel a bit like an unpolished product.

I was dissapointed to see they've gone for a Velcro strap on a product like this but what the hey. I would have preferred a band. I also do not like the mounts at all. I'm not used to them but and when they lock, great, but the depth of the fit isn't good. Feel like I'm going to break them...

Found the app and firmware updates work okay but the startup sounds annoying (I know you can turn them off). Anyway, I noticed the Fly12 doesn't have an option to be renamed in the app. Might just be me but I still couldn't see it in the firmware update changelog.

I mounted it the 12 with a go pro double mount on the back of my garmin, however I wasn't happy with the amount of play in adjusting the mount. I ended up rounding the M5 bolt to try and get it tight and replaced it with another one. The unit seems pretty heavy to be held up by two screws but I'll check it after a little bit of riding. The issue isn't the garmin mount but rather the gopro interface.

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Will post some footage up of the mount after some testing.

Lastly, anyone found a tempered glass/protector for the lens? I found a few from ebay based in germany and the UK. One rock and she's gawn.

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby Shpox » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:22 pm

Just an update, first ride and as expected the unit was too heavy to stay on the Garmin double mount. I lost a screw and saw the thing pretty much dangling. Really dissapointed. Looking at alternate options now.

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby nickobec » Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:44 am

I have been running those cheap chinese stem mounted double garmin and go pro mounts with a garmin 130 and Fly 12 on 3 of my 4 bikes (the other has a quill stem, so use the cycliq double out front instead). After 2 years and 9k on one bike I noticed a crack on the mount, replaced it and start using tethers on the garmin and Fly 12. But that is the only issue and I have ridden over 20k on the three bikes in that time and over some fairly rough roads. The only change is the go pro mount bolt. I have a couple of bolts with plastic handles and use them. It is rare for me to need to adjust the angle of the fly 12

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby Shpox » Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:57 am

Nick, how is the gopro mounted connected to the garmin mount? Is it a screw like this to the underside?

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I'm not a fan of how the screw is mounted at all, it's working against gravity.

I've just ordered this one to see how I go...

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I've just installed the FLY12 using the supplied mount and IMO it's unacceptably bulk. This device should ship with garmin/headunit mount standard, there's no real other way IMO.

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby foo on patrol » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:03 pm

Why wouldn't you use the mounts that come with the Fly? :? That's all that I have ever used and have no problems! :idea:

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby Arbuckle23 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:15 pm

foo on patrol wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:03 pm
Why wouldn't you use the mounts that come with the Fly? :? That's all that I have ever used and have no problems! :idea:

Foo
Would like to get the Fly12 centered and out front and clear of hoses/cables
Under the Garmin would the the best spot I would imagine.

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby jasonc » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:18 pm

foo on patrol wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:03 pm
Why wouldn't you use the mounts that come with the Fly? :? That's all that I have ever used and have no problems! :idea:

Foo
I have aero handlebars. It won't fit on the cycliq mount as it will hit the frame

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby foo on patrol » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:25 pm

jasonc wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:18 pm
foo on patrol wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:03 pm
Why wouldn't you use the mounts that come with the Fly? :? That's all that I have ever used and have no problems! :idea:

Foo
I have aero handlebars. It won't fit on the cycliq mount as it will hit the frame
Confused with about this, can you show me a pic please? :?

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby jasonc » Sat Dec 28, 2019 5:34 pm

The mount won't hit the frame, but the fly12 when on the mount as there is only a very small section that is round on either side of the stem

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby nickobec » Sat Dec 28, 2019 6:10 pm

Shpox wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:57 am
Nick, how is the gopro mounted connected to the garmin mount? Is it a screw like this to the underside?
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Never had an issue with the screws, they stayed in place without coming loose on 3 different mounts over 20,000km.

The one that did the most mileage 9,000km (then cracked), I had to flip the mount so the gopro mount was in the circular mount intended for the garmin and the garmin mount sitting on the flat section.

On the other hand I lost a couple of bolts from alloy garmin outfront mounts similar to what you are buying. Had a Garmin 510 and mount fly off my bars, another time during a race the garmin 510 started shaking, so I put the garmin in my pocket, but I finished the race without a mount.
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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby Shpox » Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:55 pm

Arbuckle23 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:15 pm
foo on patrol wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:03 pm
Why wouldn't you use the mounts that come with the Fly? :? That's all that I have ever used and have no problems! :idea:

Foo
Would like to get the Fly12 centered and out front and clear of hoses/cables
Under the Garmin would the the best spot I would imagine.
Totally this. The Fly12 is bulky and it just makes sense to have them both together to a) not obscure the view, b), not conflict with cables. Not so easy...

Thanks so much Nick. I had better luck today, remounted with as much torque as I could before rounding. Might have to add a dab of lotite. I am not comfortable with the mount yet still.

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby AUbicycles » Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:18 am

K-edge xl out front used for all generations. The cables do rub so you have to pock the right spot but havn’t had issues
Cycling is in my BNA

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby Arbuckle23 » Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:41 am

jasonc wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:32 pm
I'm using a k-edge xl with a 1030 and fly12 (original)
AUbicycles wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:18 am
K-edge xl out front used for all generations. The cables do rub so you have to pock the right spot but havn’t had issues
Thanks. A bit nervous about K-Edge saying the Fly12CE is too heavy for the XL mount on their website.

Just waiting for Pushys to get stock back and I think I will buy. Given the rubbish warranty support I had with my Fly6 from Cycliq and the excellent support from Pushys as a consequence I prefer to buy through them.

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Re: New Fly6 CE and Fly12 CE Camera's

Postby Arbuckle23 » Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:45 am

I should also ask, has their been a firmware update for the Fly12CE to sort out the darkness in low light that Chris's review showed?

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