2022 Team rankings and Relegation ....
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2022 Team rankings and Relegation ....
Postby MichaelB » Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:41 am
This is something that has been mentioned a few times before, but is becoming increasingly important as the season nears the end !
BEX are one of those teams that are close to the zone, but a good TdF and recent performances by Yates have lifted them out of a bit of danger for a while, but still close ....
Lotto and Israel are currently in danger, but Cofidis, Movistar, BEX and EF still should be nervous !!!
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Re: 2022 Team rankings and Relegation ....
Postby AUbicycles » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:27 am
Continental means hoping for invites… is less prominent but also cheaper. Indon’t think a team is out of the gane and beibg well known and expecting the right event invites is a strategy.
Wpuld be interested to know if they can climb the ladder or still need the same points / qualification as the worldteams.
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Re: 2022 Team rankings and Relegation ....
Postby MichaelB » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:26 am
It was on the cards, but he’ll try and score them some points to help avoid relegation !
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Re: 2022 Team rankings and Relegation ....
Postby MichaelB » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:47 am
IPT are looking like solidifying their bottom position !
BEX doing well and dragging themselves clear.
An update on the promotion and relegation standings with Lotto-Soudal closing in on that crucial 18th place while Israel are making emergency mid-season signings to help win points.
What’s Changed Since Last Week?
Alpecin-Deceuninck and Arkéa-Samsic are in line for promotion, Lotto-Soudal and Israel-PremierTech face relegation
Lotto-Soudal and TotalEnergies stand get the automatic invites to the grand tours next year
Top scorers were Ineos, Bahrain and DSM, followed by Intermarché and BikeExchange-Jayco
Low scorers were Arkéa-Samsic and B&B Hotels on zero, Alpecin-Deceuninck got three points. Among others Israel got five, Cofidis 23 and Movistar 40
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Re: 2022 Team rankings and Relegation ....
Postby MichaelB » Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:36 pm
It'll be interesting to see how some of the other teams at the tail end of the field go.
Meanwhile, Lotto have done well again through de Lie (125 pts) at the Museeuw Classic
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Re: 2022 Team rankings and Relegation ....
Postby AUbicycles » Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:46 am
https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/sy ... the-sport/
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Re: 2022 Team rankings and Relegation ....
Postby MichaelB » Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:59 am
Funny how it's the teams that face relegation that are becoming noisy ....AUbicycles wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:46 amTeam israel not happy and threatening to take legal action and even start an alternative event.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/sy ... the-sport/
Jayco were making some noises last week as well, but got some decent points from MM in Canada.
Sylvan blames covid for some of their woes, but every team was faced with the same issues and also got hampered. Reality is that IPT stars just didn't perform either at all or consistently.
I feel for those teams, but the rules and outcomes have been there for a while .....
I wonder though, is a positive outcome from the relegation type issue that many of the smaller races are now attracting better riders, which then allows them to attract more sponsors and thereby survive/grow instead of the big races always hogging the limelight ....
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Re: 2022 Team rankings and Relegation ....
Postby Thoglette » Tue Sep 13, 2022 12:27 pm
Agree on all points: a lot of noise from those who didn’t measure up to rules they all agreed to.MichaelB wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:59 amFunny how it's the teams that face relegation that are becoming noisy ....
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Sylvan blames covid for some of their woes, but every team was faced with the same issues and also got hampered. Reality is that IPT stars just didn't perform either at all or consistently.
The “force majeur” point might be “arguable” but from my armchair there’s not much life there - unless the UCI demonstrably promised-but-didn’t-deliver something Very Important.
As to “relegation is death” (& therefore the list must grow each year) this is clearly nonsensical. Rather the UCI should increase the coverage of second tier events. There’s no shortage of viewer demand, particularly if a top tier rider or team is in the race.(And the commentary is up to snuff). Lots of more sensible options there for the UCI.
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Re: 2022 Team rankings and Relegation ....
Postby MichaelB » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:15 pm
A very detailed and data filled post from LR.
IPT are MILES behind, no wonder Sylvan is moaning ....
And to the above point, there are 15 of those 'smaller tier races' over the next two weeks which will see some interesting fields given the race to avoid relegation (or the potential of)Thoglette wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 12:27 pm...
As to “relegation is death” (& therefore the list must grow each year) this is clearly nonsensical. Rather the UCI should increase the coverage of second tier events. There’s no shortage of viewer demand, particularly if a top tier rider or team is in the race.(And the commentary is up to snuff). Lots of more sensible options there for the UCI.
The Next Two Weeks | 12 September – 25 September
As we have noted, there are still a large number of races to be contested, which will involve most of the teams at risk. In fact, all seven (Israel, Lotto, Cofidis, BikeExchange, EF, Arkéa and Movistar) will coincide this week in Belgium in both the GP de Wallonie and the Kampioenschap van Vlaanderen, minor races that will acquire a special interest thanks to the relegation battle.
Races:
Skoda Tour Luxembourg (2.Pro, 13/09 – 17/09) Cofidis, Arkéa
Tour de Slovaquie (2.1, 13/09 – 17/09) Israel
Grand Prix de Wallonie (1.Pro, 14/09) ALL
Giro della Toscana (1.1, 14/09) Israel, Lotto, Movistar, EF, Cofidis
Coppa Sabatini (1.Pro, 15/09) Israel, Lotto, Movistar, EF, Cofidis
Kampioenschap van Vlaanderen (1.1, 16/09) ALL
Primus Classic (1.Pro, 17/09) Israel, Lotto, Movistar, EF, BikeExchange, Cofidis
Memorial Marco Pantani (1.1, 17/09) Israel, Lotto, Movistar, EF, Cofidis
Gooikse Pijl (1.1, 18/09) Israel, Lotto, Movistar, EF, BikeExchange, Cofidis
Grand Prix d'Isbergues - Pas de Calais (1.1, 18/09) Lotto, Cofidis, Arkéa
World Championships ITT (WC, 18/09)
World Championships Mixed Relay TTT (WC, 21/09)
Omloop van het Houtland (1.1, 21/09) Israel, Lotto, Movistar, BikeExchange, Cofidis, Arkéa
World Championships Road Race (WC, 25/09)
Classique Paris-Chauny (1.1, 25/09) Israel, Lotto, BikeExchange, Cofidis, Arkéa
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Re: 2022 Team rankings and Relegation ....
Postby AUbicycles » Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:00 am
Much cheaoer at the next level, but exposure and sponsoship and attracting top riders is harder.
Unox in the top level appear invisible while intermarche has some prominent success and gained a bit more confidence so appear on the rise.
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Re: 2022 Team rankings and Relegation ....
Postby MichaelB » Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:52 pm
IOPT owners and riders must be getting really worried now, as if the relegation actually happens, IPT could suffer badly and Sylvan may get the humps and fold the team. Time will tell, but whilst Lotto are also in the firing line, their 2022 scores mean they still get invites to the 2023 WT Calendar Much like Alpecin did this year). IPT need to outscore Total Energies to get the same as Lotto, but are still 1,000 pts adrift.
Points scoring for the key teams in the last two weeks ;
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Re: 2022 Team rankings and Relegation ....
Postby MichaelB » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:47 am
LR has a really good summary and some interesting graphs/data, but there is plenty to read.
What the final impact on key riders in those teams and whether they jump ship or not remains to be seen ....
https://lanternerouge.com.au/2022/10/20 ... -analysis/
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