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Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:09 pm
by 10speedsemiracer
jasonc wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:01 pm
If it's a fixie/track bike, the rear spacing may be less than what an igh requires
Good point, forgot about that.
The Nexus7 is narrower at 130mm, and the 3sp is narrower again (126mm ?) so that may be the only option.
Or go modern Sturmey-Archer, there is a 120mm OLD verison of the 8sp hub (no coaster brake, no nothin', just gears) but then we're stuck with either a trigger shifter or a thumb shifter. No integrated levers.
edit : spelling
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:14 pm
by Duck!
Some models of hubs are available in a variety of axle widths to suit different frames.
Regardless of spacing, the dropout arrangement (technically they're not dropouts, rather fork tips or track ends) precludes the fitting of derailleur gears, so an internal-geared hub (IGH) as mentioned above will be the way to get gears.
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:38 pm
by ironhanglider
It can be made to work as with 6 speed derailleur gears with the right parts, knowledge and tools. You would need an old Suntour freewheel, a fork end mounted derailleur hanger a 7 or 8 spd brifter, and a full length cable housing and cable ties. You may also need a longer BB axle or a road crank if you have chainline issues.
I did it with my son's track bike
here so that he could use it to race both road and track on it. I was able to do the conversion in about 20min. That bike had a road crank, and when I re-spaced the flip flop hub to fit the freewheel, it pushed the fixed cog further out. That meant that the fixed cog lined up better with the ring in the outside position, which worked out pretty well.
Cheers,
Cameron
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:19 am
by nickobec
Viable for what?
I have used my single speed for commuting 40km to work, century solo rides (ie 100km+ rides), fast 50km bunch rides, hell I have even raced it in time trials, criteriums and road races. OK 52x16 is not the best sprinting gear and any climbs over 200m and 6% are a PITA. But otherwise it just works.
Check the rear wheel, one side should be fixed the other side a freewheel. If not replace the fixed cog on the freewheel side with a freewheel ($25) an 18 tooth is a good place to start, and ride it.
If you need gears then look for a bike designed to use gears. Trying to retrofit a bike to use gears when it is not designed to, is going to challenging, costly and unlikely to be as efficient as a regular geared bike.
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:41 am
by stevenaaus
Thanks.
Yeah, by viable I meant a dropbar sti or alfine setup with two brakes . Cameron has a nice conversion, but it looks like whichever way is going to be too much hassle and/or money, and depends on the spacing. Geez those alfines are exe! And the SB-N110 too, which look a nice piece of kit.
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:50 am
by 10speedsemiracer
stevenaaus wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:41 am
Thanks.
Yeah, by viable I meant a dropbar sti or alfine setup with two brakes . Cameron has a nice conversion, but it looks like whichever way is going to be too much hassle and/or money, and depends on the spacing. Geez those alfines are exe! And the SB-N110 too, which look a nice piece of kit.
Yeah, it's an expensive deal with new parts. I've done the job a couple of times, but always to a flat bar set up, and always using salvaged parts. I've used a couple of different Nexus hubs and an Alfine, but haven't yet used any of the new SunRace Sturmey-Archer hubs. If you found a cheap used hybrid bike with a Shimano Nexus/Alfine hub, that would be a good starting point for the wheels, crank etc, leaving you only the shifter to buy.
Is how I get my hands on these things. Too expensive otherwise.
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:45 pm
by caneye
There was a Pegoretti Luigino that popped up in eBay late yesterday with a Buy It Now for 4 grand. Don't see many of them around. By the time I logged into eBay 2 hours later, it was sold. phew.
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:57 pm
by P!N20
caneye wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:45 pm
There was a Pegoretti Luigino that popped up in eBay late yesterday with a Buy It Now for 4 grand. Don't see many of them around. By the time I logged into eBay 2 hours later, it was sold. phew.
Yikes, frame only, too:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pegoretti-L ... 7675.l2557
Another Pegoretti here:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pegoretti-B ... SwFfJcefYW
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:51 pm
by familyguy
I've seen the Peg in the metal, it's literally 2 doors down from my office
It is a very, very nice frame, currently wearing some nice parts that will probably be next to go. The wheels are *chefs kiss* but being 36H will probably turn people off unnecessarily.
Track bike ?
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:07 pm
by stevenaaus
What's the story with this flash track bike. The cough, stem ?
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/brisban ... 1252359864
Re: Track bike ?
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:26 pm
by 10speedsemiracer
That stem '
arrangement' doesn't belong, looks like owner was messing with fit in an uninformed fashion (I hate adjustable stems btw). Pic 7 of his ad shows all of the OE and other stems they've been messing with. Not sure I'd give $2700 for it, but set up properly that would be a seriously quick little track bike.
This :
is what it should look like, i.e. a proper stem, although some of the earlier units had a funky stem arrangement >>
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:55 pm
by Duck!
Felt had (possibly still have) a bit of a thing for weird proprietary stem arrangements. That looks genuine in all its awfulness.
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:52 pm
by 10speedsemiracer
Duck! wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:55 pm
Felt had (possibly still have) a bit of a thing for weird proprietary stem arrangements. That looks genuine in all its awfulness.
This is true, but not
two adjustables on one bike, surely ?!
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:19 pm
by Duck!
Yep, the stems overlap in a similar manner to inner & outer chain links - it's not a bodge, despite the appearance! More typically the arrangement is set in a Z-shape of varying angles, but the above setup is very possible. Look did a similar, but not quite so ungainly setup on some of their track/TT frames.
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:47 pm
by 10speedsemiracer
Duck! wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:19 pm
Yep, the stems overlap in a similar manner to inner & outer chain links - it's not a bodge, despite the appearance!
(snip)
Yeah, I got that (the inner/outer) had just never seen it before and can't understand why it's even a thing.
Oh well, today I learned. Duck is that set up particularly prone to flex ? (Assuming you've seen one in the flesh). Looks like something you'd find on an Amazon no-name bike.
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:16 am
by Duck!
Been a while since I worked on one... The various parts are reasonably stiff, but can be a bit prone to flex in a fully-extended position such as the one in question. Not so bad in the more retracted settings where the components brace each other.
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:21 am
by stevenaaus
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:25 am
by stevenaaus
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:39 pm
by 10speedsemiracer
Complete with Gumtree backward fork...
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:49 pm
by jasonc
10speedsemiracer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:39 pm
Complete with Gumtree backward fork...
disc brake on the drive side is always a teller
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:06 pm
by Duck!
Easy to see why it's only been ridden a few times....
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:10 pm
by 10speedsemiracer
Duck! wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:06 pm
Easy to see why it's only been ridden a few times....
To be honest, I'm surprised they managed to ride it more than once..
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:48 pm
by stevenaaus
It might have been one of those bikes you have to half assemble yourself ?
And the other thing i thought... brave design decision to make a foldable dual suspension bike. ... Snap.
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:19 pm
by caneye
A rare unused Peg, presumably built by the late Dario himself.
Aussie seller.
Costs a few coins though. But could be a financial investment
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pegoretti-l ... 3094987222
Re: Interesting eBay / Gumtree bikes
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:48 pm
by stevenaaus