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Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:59 pm
by Boognoss
wellington_street wrote:So they didnt adopt the back streets route through Winston Hills?
I don't believe so but its not official until it's on the main M2 web page. They've kept the progress mostly secret until now as it is.

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:34 pm
by caneye
The workers were widening the footpath/cyclepath between Roselea community centre and bus stop, on Pennant Hills Rd.
today, the new concrete was painted with bicycle signs.
now i understand why. it looks like it's going to be part of the detour ..

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:40 am
by ed933
caneye wrote:The workers were widening the footpath/cyclepath between Roselea community centre and bus stop, on Pennant Hills Rd.
today, the new concrete was painted with bicycle signs.
now i understand why. it looks like it's going to be part of the detour ..
Yes. There's also a big hole in the concrete between the bus stop and driveways that I didn't notice, somehow my inner tube survived the pinch. I'm also hoping they will shorten the wait time at the pedestrian crossing opposite the community centre. At the moment it takes about 2-3 minutes to change...

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:45 am
by queequeg
ed933 wrote:
caneye wrote:The workers were widening the footpath/cyclepath between Roselea community centre and bus stop, on Pennant Hills Rd.
today, the new concrete was painted with bicycle signs.
now i understand why. it looks like it's going to be part of the detour ..
Yes. There's also a big hole in the concrete between the bus stop and driveways that I didn't notice, somehow my inner tube survived the pinch. I'm also hoping they will shorten the wait time at the pedestrian crossing opposite the community centre. At the moment it takes about 2-3 minutes to change...
I once timed the lights there at something stupid like 8 minutes, so I started looking for a different route that avoided the need to go via the WPH valley. Luckily I don't need the M2 beyond PHR, So I was able to find a route along the railway (Sutherland Rd), only using the official detour when it rained and the tunnel under the M2 floods.

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:58 am
by ed933
Nice. My detour of choice (west bound) is going straight down to the end of North Rocks Road. It's busy, but I've been riding in the middle of the lane, and I do not recall any cars cutting me off. It's relatively flat, and if you're lucky with the lights it's very fast.

Then to Ray Road to link up with the official detour.

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:17 am
by Boognoss
queequeg wrote:
ed933 wrote:
caneye wrote:The workers were widening the footpath/cyclepath between Roselea community centre and bus stop, on Pennant Hills Rd.
today, the new concrete was painted with bicycle signs.
now i understand why. it looks like it's going to be part of the detour ..
Yes. There's also a big hole in the concrete between the bus stop and driveways that I didn't notice, somehow my inner tube survived the pinch. I'm also hoping they will shorten the wait time at the pedestrian crossing opposite the community centre. At the moment it takes about 2-3 minutes to change...
I once timed the lights there at something stupid like 8 minutes, so I started looking for a different route that avoided the need to go via the WPH valley. Luckily I don't need the M2 beyond PHR, So I was able to find a route along the railway (Sutherland Rd), only using the official detour when it rained and the tunnel under the M2 floods.
I actually phoned and reported the timing of the light cycles at that crossing. The RMS pleb said (paraphrasing) that you can't have the motor vehicles held up.

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:23 am
by ed933
Boognoss wrote: I actually phoned and reported the timing of the light cycles at that crossing. The RMS pleb said (paraphrasing) that you can't have the motor vehicles held up.
Haha what they're just holding us up. I'm guessing that the idea of such a long wait time is to bunch up people who want to cross the road so traffic is held up for less time, but I've only rarely come across another cyclist/pedestrian once or twice ever whilst waiting there.

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:46 am
by Boognoss
ed933 wrote:
Boognoss wrote: I actually phoned and reported the timing of the light cycles at that crossing. The RMS pleb said (paraphrasing) that you can't have the motor vehicles held up.
Haha what they're just holding us up. I'm guessing that the idea of such a long wait time is to bunch up people who want to cross the road so traffic is held up for less time, but I've only rarely come across another cyclist/pedestrian once or twice ever whilst waiting there.
For the 2+ years from 2011 to 2013 I probably saw more than a handful but never many. The only reason for that crossing for bikes is the detour route for the most part.

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:57 pm
by queequeg
Boognoss wrote:
ed933 wrote:
Boognoss wrote: I actually phoned and reported the timing of the light cycles at that crossing. The RMS pleb said (paraphrasing) that you can't have the motor vehicles held up.
Haha what they're just holding us up. I'm guessing that the idea of such a long wait time is to bunch up people who want to cross the road so traffic is held up for less time, but I've only rarely come across another cyclist/pedestrian once or twice ever whilst waiting there.
For the 2+ years from 2011 to 2013 I probably saw more than a handful but never many. The only reason for that crossing for bikes is the detour route for the most part.
Spending 8 minutes waiting for those lights was approximately 13% of my commute time. Crazy to think that I ride up to 5km in that time!

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:33 pm
by Boognoss
queequeg wrote:
Boognoss wrote:
For the 2+ years from 2011 to 2013 I probably saw more than a handful but never many. The only reason for that crossing for bikes is the detour route for the most part.
Spending 8 minutes waiting for those lights was approximately 13% of my commute time. Crazy to think that I ride up to 5km in that time!
Exactly! All hail the mighty motor vehicle at the expense of all else. Probably 3.5-4km for me that time. ;)

Re: When will M2 re-close?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:34 pm
by Boognoss
Boognoss wrote:
queequeg wrote:
Boognoss wrote:
For the 2+ years from 2011 to 2013 I probably saw more than a handful but never many. The only reason for that crossing for bikes is the detour route for the most part.
Spending 8 minutes waiting for those lights was approximately 13% of my commute time. Crazy to think that I ride up to 5km in that time!
Exactly! All hail the mighty motor vehicle at the expense of all else. Probably 3.5-4km for me that time. ;)
We have concrete information that the end is nigh (and that the detour is pathetic yet again).

http://www.hillsm2.com.au/roadworks.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - westbound Feb 5th, eastbound second half of the year.

http://www.hillsm2.com.au/files/NCX_bikedetour.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - "the" detour.

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:00 am
by skydance
OMGosh! Not again... ruining one of my favourite routes, adding at least 15 minutes and forcing cyclists to take dangerous detour. Outrageous. Second worst thing after legislation changes.

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:58 pm
by 2Wheeler
That detour map is someone's idea of a bad joke :) I wonder if they all had a good chuckle while drawing that up.

Wonder what this will do to the M2 traffic closing the bus lane on what is already a choke point in M2. This will actually make cycling along M2 much more enjoyable when you are whizzing past cars at 30+ km/h

Boognoss, I think I saw you the other day at Lane Cove traffic light. I was the one in green fluro singlet top :) Thanks for the more realistic alternate route!

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:03 pm
by 2Wheeler
Also, at least eastbound is not affected till 2nd half of 2016. Which would probably mean end of the year :)

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:05 pm
by Boognoss
2Wheeler wrote:That detour map is someone's idea of a bad joke :) I wonder if they all had a good chuckle while drawing that up.

Wonder what this will do to the M2 traffic closing the bus lane on what is already a choke point in M2. This will actually make cycling along M2 much more enjoyable when you are whizzing past cars at 30+ km/h

Boognoss, I think I saw you the other day at Lane Cove traffic light. I was the one in green fluro singlet top :) Thanks for the more realistic alternate route!
Worst Dad joke ever it is!

I don't recall the flouro sorry, I was either in my BNA Ultimate jersey (Monday, Tuesday) or NWSCC kit (Wed, Thurs) :).

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:46 pm
by trek52
You cant miss Boognoss.......Beard, Friendly and looks like he is riding to WA with all the crap he has on his bike :)

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:50 pm
by Boognoss
trek52 wrote:You cant miss Boognoss.......Beard, Friendly and looks like he is riding to WA with all the crap he has on his bike :)
That's probably mostly why I'm so slow. Gotta have 6 spare tubes for the M2 :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:44 am
by DojoBuff
Can anyone conform that cyclists can now ride the length of the M2 east and west? Google Map photos are inconsistent.

Sorry, my M2 search took me to a random spot in this thread, not the last post, so I posted the above before reading about the detour.

I was going to take my first ride on the M2 tomorrow but not now. The M2 section between Pennant Hills Road and Windsor Road is the most crucial as it bridges the 'inaccessible' Darling Mills Creek area and so using the M2 now seems pointless. I hate using Renown Road and North Rocks Road so I may as well go via Parramatta or Castle Hill to head west.

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:14 pm
by vosadrian
It's not closed yet!

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:21 am
by DojoBuff
Changed my mind and rode the M2 from Delhi Road to Pennant Hills Road and went back home via Epping back streets. Surprised by how much debris is in the M2 breakdown/cycle lane. Quite 'crunchy' even for a mountain bike.

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:14 am
by 2Wheeler
Boognoss wrote:
trek52 wrote:You cant miss Boognoss.......Beard, Friendly and looks like he is riding to WA with all the crap he has on his bike :)
That's probably mostly why I'm so slow. Gotta have 6 spare tubes for the M2 :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Ha. I actually had 2 punctures in 1 trip last Friday. I usually carry 2 spares, but now I'll have to carry 3 just to be sure.

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:26 am
by am50em
Does anyone have a link as to what the M2 interchange will look like in detail?
Given the tunnels are ultimately 3 lane, how do they merge with the M2?
Will it be possible to cross from bike/breakdown lane across these intersections?
On occasions I have found it difficult to cross at the Pennant Hills offramp already.

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:55 am
by Boognoss
am50em wrote:Does anyone have a link as to what the M2 interchange will look like in detail?
Given the tunnels are ultimately 3 lane, how do they merge with the M2?
Will it be possible to cross from bike/breakdown lane across these intersections?
On occasions I have found it difficult to cross at the Pennant Hills offramp already.
Mention of underpasses being constructed for bikes to handle the crossing but no plans that I've been able to find.

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:58 pm
by am50em
Thanks Boognoss. I have emailed an enquiry to NorthConnex asking for details of the interchange.

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:50 pm
by caneye
DojoBuff wrote:Changed my mind and rode the M2 from Delhi Road to Pennant Hills Road and went back home via Epping back streets. Surprised by how much debris is in the M2 breakdown/cycle lane. Quite 'crunchy' even for a mountain bike.
I rode on the M2 in the same direction today. I thought a sweeper must've gone by recently 'cos it was 1 of the cleaner days :lol:

i find it's not the crunchy bits that hurt you but the unseen, tiny radial wires :evil: