Canada Bay Council - Concord to Bay Run feedback

[familyguy]

This just landed in my email due to providing feedback on the last scheme they asked for input on. May be of interest to some:
https://collaborate.canadabay.nsw.gov.au/ewcycleway

Locals weigh in.

[find_bruce]

Thanks Jim, being a local it is easy to be cynical when it comes to this particular council - they have a history of appalling actions, including designating Queens Rd as a bike route & running a bike route over land they didn't own and had no authority to designate as a bike path.

With that said its nice to see that it may finally have occurred to the council that people might use a bike to get to the bay run. Next thing you know it might occur to them that people ride a bike to places like the shops.

I will try to put my cynicism experience to one side, and approach the consultation like they might implement what they come up with.

[g-boaf]

Thanks Jim, being a local it is easy to be cynical when it comes to this particular council - they have a history of appalling actions, including designating Queens Rd as a bike route & running a bike route over land they didn't own and had no authority to designate as a bike path.

With that said its nice to see that it may finally have occurred to the council that people might use a bike to get to the bay run. Next thing you know it might occur to them that people ride a bike to places like the shops.

I will try to put my cynicism experience to one side, and approach the consultation like they might implement what they come up with.

Link to the map on AWS:

https://s3.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com ... age_2i.jpg

This looks interesting and a good step.

[find_bruce]

I was pleasantly surprised to see the different routes for confidant cyclists & others. It also legalises crossing Great North Rd where everybody already does

[baabaa]

I was pleasantly surprised...

O M G man have an extra strong red cordial on me!!
This is the first time I have honestly been excited about new biking bits in Sydney for years!! They really seem to have picked out the particular dung like parts of that route, and, will, change, them.
If they pull this off it really will make huge difference to attracting new people to bike commuting into the city.
Four and a half big stars from me.

[g-boaf]

I was pleasantly surprised...

O M G man have an extra strong red cordial on me!!
This is the first time I have honestly been excited about new biking bits in Sydney for years!! They really seem to have picked out the particular dung like parts of that route, and, will, change, them.
If they pull this off it really will make huge difference to attracting new people to bike commuting into the city.
Four and a half big stars from me.

It's a big missing link.

[familyguy]

Yes, it looks like a good bit of planning. Hopefully it's nothing like the Northern Beaches Council 'bike plans'. They ask, people reply, usually a lot of 'we need this to connect and it will be great', they provide one piece that leads nowhere, then repeat again 3 years later with new engineers.

It almost looks conceivable that this could link further west and access Homebush and then Cooks River for an actual 'network'. Slowly, slowly.

Jim

[g-boaf]

Yes, it looks like a good bit of planning. Hopefully it's nothing like the Northern Beaches Council 'bike plans'. They ask, people reply, usually a lot of 'we need this to connect and it will be great', they provide one piece that leads nowhere, then repeat again 3 years later with new engineers.

It almost looks conceivable that this could link further west and access Homebush and then Cooks River for an actual 'network'. Slowly, slowly.

Jim

No no! Can't do that, it'd be too sensible, must maintain the status quo of disorganised, unlinked bike paths. Sarcasm I know, but you get the idea. It's taken so long.

[tez001]

It almost looks conceivable that this could link further west and access Homebush and then Cooks River for an actual 'network'. Slowly, slowly.

Jim

In my feedback I was going to actually put that in to see if they would consider changing it to link in with Homebush somehow as I think it would be more beneficial, rather than spitting you out on to Concord Rd near North Strathfield

[tubby74]

I was pleasantly surprised to see the different routes for confidant cyclists & others. It also legalises crossing Great North Rd where everybody already does

Having seen the behaviour of some cycling groups including shop rides at that crossing. I find this concerning. They hit the crossing and footpaths at speed at often from behind cars. Make it a recommended route for sure, but I am very much in favour of making cyclist dismount and walk at that crossing.

[zebee]

What worries me is all that "parking removed". No way will they get it through because of that.

[baabaa]

Yes, it looks like a good bit of planning. Hopefully it's nothing like the Northern Beaches Council 'bike plans'. They ask, people reply, usually a lot of 'we need this to connect and it will be great', they provide one piece that leads nowhere, then repeat again 3 years later with new engineers.

It almost looks conceivable that this could link further west and access Homebush and then Cooks River for an actual 'network'. Slowly, slowly.

Jim

Which year pre-amalgamation NBC Final Bike Plan are you talking about?.......
The latest 2020 Bike Pain* is much the same as the other finals.

Yes, the infra creep west to link into Homebush / SOP would help but these Canada Bay Council, bits in the east are the spooky parts as the traffic gets thicker the further east you go. One day we may have a simple and safe route from the SHB to SOP.
I know so little about the linkages from these routes into the Cooks River network but could not be that hard if these changes are made.

North Sydney Council is still looking the like the North Korea of Sydney bike infra.
Could have been a leader in and around 2000 yet, it is looking more like a Dodo each year.


* no such thing.

[39x25]

I go to SOP still sometimes (used to work there 4 days a week) by bike and using the Lyon/Crane route... definitely one of the better plans if they link up to a path on the other side of concord rd (i know its a different council). seemlessly linked / easy to follow route from SHB/city all the way to SOP and in effect Parramatta with existing paths would be the dream. We are getting there.. bit by little bit. This is a good step forward

[roberto73]

Somewhere in the Strathfield/Homebush details of the Parramatta Rd Urban Amenity Improvement Project (PRUAIP) was a proposed bike bridge across the railway from Queens St near North Strathfield to George St and then a link to Powells Ck, where you could go north to get into Bicentennial Park or south to get to Strathfield and Homebush. So at Concord Rd you would do a R then L on Princess St to get to Queen. Pity this plan doesnt explain that to give some context. Otherwise why wouldnt you use say Correys Rd as a more direct link to the underpass near Concord West station -which even tho it missed out on getting widened when all that work was done on the railway line recently is the easiest link to Olympic Park and Parramatta Valley Cycleway, or even to Newington and M4 cycleway via Hill Rd and Ian Wing Pde.

[roberto73]

A week left for comments.
Its clunky in parts, but the good bits are good. Bike lanes on Crane St to Lyons Rd west would be a useful addition, as a fast option to Stanley St and the canal. Sort of a dual route.