Is cycling the wrong way on service roads allowed?
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Is cycling the wrong way on service roads allowed?
Postby Jaslueasi » Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:09 pm
Does any of you know whether cycling on service roads the wrong way is allowed or not because sometimes crossing the road or using the main road is too dangerous?
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Re: Is cycling the wrong way on service roads allowed?
Postby Thoglette » Thu Jan 19, 2023 11:51 am
What sort of “service road”? Private property or on the gazetted road reserve?
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Re: Is cycling the wrong way on service roads allowed?
Postby gcouyant » Thu Jan 19, 2023 11:54 am
I guess if it's signposted as One-Way only then strictly speaking we shouldn't ride the opposite way. Most service roads are one-way but there are plenty of exceptions out there.
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Re: Is cycling the wrong way on service roads allowed?
Postby trailgumby » Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:49 pm
I think your question answers itself.
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Re: Is cycling the wrong way on service roads allowed?
Postby Duck! » Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:57 pm
A bike is a vehicle as defined in the road rules, therefore is legally obliged to follow general traffic laws. Although there are exceptions, service roads are most commonly one-way, running the same direction of the near side of the adjacent main carriageway.
If you choose to ride the wrong way, keep in mind you will have no legal protection if an incident occurs.
If you choose to ride the wrong way, keep in mind you will have no legal protection if an incident occurs.
I had a thought, but it got run over as it crossed my mind.
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Re: Is cycling the wrong way on service roads allowed?
Postby antigee » Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:18 pm
Duck nails it...though I'd add:
"A bike is a vehicle as defined in the road rules, therefore is legally obliged to follow general traffic laws" and some cyclist specific rules in addition (just a something that bugs me that as a cyclist you actually have to know more road rules than a vehicle driver and then add in their made up ones as well)
I will own up to occasionally using a service road the wrong way...a bit like will use a path to get to a signalized crossing on busy highways usually only in quiet residential areas. As to cycle routes using service roads I'm a little leery especially when there is industrial or commercial traffic...yes traffic speeds are lower and the consequences of any collision are lessened but I generally find that drivers aren't that observant or predicable on busy service roads so mixing in cyclists just allows unimpeded high speed traffic on the main road with a poor facility for cyclists
a couple of local service roads (for me) Vermont South, Melbourne I've no idea if this is a contraflow signed route or a a very narrow shared path:
and this which actually is quite useful but spoilt by (very) extended wait for a crossing light and a stupidly steep ramp to set off from (Malvern East crossing Dandenong Rd)
"A bike is a vehicle as defined in the road rules, therefore is legally obliged to follow general traffic laws" and some cyclist specific rules in addition (just a something that bugs me that as a cyclist you actually have to know more road rules than a vehicle driver and then add in their made up ones as well)
I will own up to occasionally using a service road the wrong way...a bit like will use a path to get to a signalized crossing on busy highways usually only in quiet residential areas. As to cycle routes using service roads I'm a little leery especially when there is industrial or commercial traffic...yes traffic speeds are lower and the consequences of any collision are lessened but I generally find that drivers aren't that observant or predicable on busy service roads so mixing in cyclists just allows unimpeded high speed traffic on the main road with a poor facility for cyclists
a couple of local service roads (for me) Vermont South, Melbourne I've no idea if this is a contraflow signed route or a a very narrow shared path:
and this which actually is quite useful but spoilt by (very) extended wait for a crossing light and a stupidly steep ramp to set off from (Malvern East crossing Dandenong Rd)
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Re: Is cycling the wrong way on service roads allowed?
Postby Cyclophiliac » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:21 am
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Re: Is cycling the wrong way on service roads allowed?
Postby warthog1 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:39 am
Struggling to understand what you mean here?Cyclophiliac wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:21 amThat's only true if you assume all cyclists are drivers.
There are cycling specific road rules in addition to regular motorist compliance rules.
https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safety- ... n-victoria
In addition, knowing the rules to (hopefully) predict the behaviour of those operating heavy lethal objects in close proximity, is particularly important as a cyclist.
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Re: Is cycling the wrong way on service roads allowed?
Postby Thoglette » Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:12 am
You’re presuming all cyclists also hold (local, recent) drivers’s licences.warthog1 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:39 amStruggling to understand what you mean here?Cyclophiliac wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:21 amThat's only true if you assume all cyclists are drivers.
The road regs contain all sorts of guff about parking, locking unattended vehicles, children in cars, licensing of mopeds and securing loads. And that all varies from state to state & year to year.
None of which are of much interest to someone who’s not a car driver.
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Re: Is cycling the wrong way on service roads allowed?
Postby bychosis » Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:36 am
I’m guessing no, you can’t ride the wrong way on a one way service road. But I’d do it for ‘safety’, just like I illegally ride footpaths (NSW) on occasion.
IMO choosing a route that prevents multiple crossing of a busy road or enables me to avoid a section of heavy traffic with narrow lanes where I’m not detrimentally impacting other users is a rule worth breaking.
For example my commute includes a section of dual narrow lane road where the sun is normally shining on the windscreen of motorists making it hard for them to see. It’s also at the top of a steep climb and mildly uphill so I’m a bit slower. I ride the footpath but rarely encounter a pedestrian and give way to them if I do. I also ride about 200m the wrong way up a one way road to avoid a downhill to a stop sign followed by a short sharp climb.
IMO choosing a route that prevents multiple crossing of a busy road or enables me to avoid a section of heavy traffic with narrow lanes where I’m not detrimentally impacting other users is a rule worth breaking.
For example my commute includes a section of dual narrow lane road where the sun is normally shining on the windscreen of motorists making it hard for them to see. It’s also at the top of a steep climb and mildly uphill so I’m a bit slower. I ride the footpath but rarely encounter a pedestrian and give way to them if I do. I also ride about 200m the wrong way up a one way road to avoid a downhill to a stop sign followed by a short sharp climb.
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Re: Is cycling the wrong way on service roads allowed?
Postby warthog1 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:55 pm
Fair enough.Thoglette wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:12 amYou’re presuming all cyclists also hold (local, recent) drivers’s licences.warthog1 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:39 amStruggling to understand what you mean here?Cyclophiliac wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:21 amThat's only true if you assume all cyclists are drivers.
The road regs contain all sorts of guff about parking, locking unattended vehicles, children in cars, licensing of mopeds and securing loads. And that all varies from state to state & year to year.
None of which are of much interest to someone who’s not a car driver.
Got to admit I pay zero attention to that guff however as a car driver who still has a road train licence that hasnt been used in over 20 years.
I concentrate on trying to be safe.
For a cyclist being safe means picking what the other vehicles on the road are likely to do even more so than as a car driver. The consequences of not picking others' behaviour are likely to be far more serious.
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