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Benefits to buy e-bikes, but not anything else?
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:04 pm
by g-boaf
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal ... 5jyjl.html
What about others who want to do similar with a non-electric bike?
The National Automotive Leasing and Salary Packaging Association is calling for e-bikes to be eligible for an exemption from fringe benefits tax, regardless of whether they are used to commute to work.
“The problem is [that] awareness of the fringe benefit tax exemption is low, and even if you find out about it, the current restriction on private use acts as a significant disincentive to an employee looking to salary package an e-bike,” association chief executive Rohan Martin said.
The same thing should apply to all bicycles, or if not, none of them.
Re: Benefits to buy e-bikes, but not anything else?
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:23 pm
by zebee
Because it never occurred to them that a non-powered bike costs more than a few hundred.
They used to allow motorcycles but stopped that. If they allow e-bikes should be all two wheelers.
Of course they should stop this stupid rort that just encourages car use and congestion.
Re: Benefits to buy e-bikes, but not anything else?
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 5:15 pm
by uart
If it does become a thing, and only for e-bikes, then just duct tape a battery to your roadie, take a photo of it, and claim it anyway. If you get called out on it, then just say that your bike identifies as an e-bike.
Re: Benefits to buy e-bikes, but not anything else?
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 6:22 pm
by Mr Purple
uart wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 5:15 pm
If it does become a thing, and only for e-bikes, then just duct tape a battery to your roadie, take a photo of it, and claim it anyway. If you get called out on it, then just say that your bike identifies as an e-bike.
Di2 = batteries = e-bike.
Re: Benefits to buy e-bikes, but not anything else?
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 6:37 pm
by g-boaf
uart wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 5:15 pm
If it does become a thing, and only for e-bikes, then just duct tape a battery to your roadie, take a photo of it, and claim it anyway. If you get called out on it, then just say that your bike identifies as an e-bike.
I have two e-tap batteries and two CR2032 at least.
Anyhow that bike and the one before it are both getting to high mileage.
So probably wouldn’t count.
Re: Benefits to buy e-bikes, but not anything else?
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:48 pm
by CmdrBiggles
g-boaf wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 6:37 pm
uart wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 5:15 pm
If it does become a thing, and only for e-bikes, then just duct tape a battery to your roadie, take a photo of it, and claim it anyway. If you get called out on it, then just say that your bike identifies as an e-bike.
I have two e-tap batteries and two CR2032 at least.
Anyhow that bike and the one before it are both getting to high mileage.
So probably wouldn’t count.
I have 3 -tap batteries (front, rear, spare), a lithium button (spider-integral power meter), an lithium button battery in each shifter...
Where once not long ago I had all cables and the only batteries were in the front and rear lights...
Never, ever thought I'd see the day I would be riding an actual
e-bike!
Something wrong with the definition? Do tell. The present-day crop of fancy velos are one of (or all!) electronic bikes with wireless transmissions, wireless transmission with electronic shifting or short-and-sweet, very plainly...e-bikes.
Re: Benefits to buy e-bikes, but not anything else?
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:44 pm
by AdelaidePeter
Fringe benefits tax is paid when a vehicle is provided to the employee by the employer, as a "fringe benefit". I think it would be pretty rare for employers to provide a non-electric bike as a fringe benefit, though I guess some might.
Anyway I don't see why a cyclist should object to this proposal. It would still helping some people out of cars and onto bikes.
Re: Benefits to buy e-bikes, but not anything else?
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:38 pm
by fat and old
Fisher said a novated lease enabled him to afford a high-end bike worth $16,000
What e-bike is 16k?
Re: Benefits to buy e-bikes, but not anything else?
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:33 pm
by find_bruce
fat and old wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:38 pm
What e-bike is 16k?
Scott Lumen is
$24,300 but I suppose you could settle for a
Trek Rail at $16k
Re: Benefits to buy e-bikes, but not anything else?
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 9:24 am
by fat and old
At least the Trek has a Knock Block 2.0. No more unwanted pregnancies
Re: Benefits to buy e-bikes, but not anything else?
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:36 pm
by CmdrBiggles
No thanks.
The weight of those things mean that electric assist is almost a given just to get moving!
Looked over one just for fun in my local shop yesterday afternoon — could not even lift it off the rack for its weight.
Move eyes to the true, hard-core competition MTBs nearby and their dramatic loss of weight is profound to experience.
Re: Benefits to buy e-bikes, but not anything else?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 1:48 pm
by find_bruce
CmdrBiggles wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:36 pm
No thanks.
The weight of those things mean that electric assist is almost a given just to get moving!
Looked over one just for fun in my local shop yesterday afternoon — could not even lift it off the rack for its weight.
Move eyes to the true, hard-core competition MTBs nearby and their dramatic loss of weight is profound to experience.
If you cannot lift 15.5kg I would recommend adding some weight training to your workouts to
stave off osteoporosis
Re: Benefits to buy e-bikes, but not anything else?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 2:56 pm
by jasonc
Mr Purple wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 6:22 pm
uart wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 5:15 pm
If it does become a thing, and only for e-bikes, then just duct tape a battery to your roadie, take a photo of it, and claim it anyway. If you get called out on it, then just say that your bike identifies as an e-bike.
Di2 = batteries = e-bike.
would love to try this
Re: Benefits to buy e-bikes, but not anything else?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:36 pm
by CmdrBiggles
find_bruce wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 1:48 pm
CmdrBiggles wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:36 pm
No thanks.
The weight of those things mean that electric assist is almost a given just to get moving!
Looked over one just for fun in my local shop yesterday afternoon — could not even lift it off the rack for its weight.
Move eyes to the true, hard-core competition MTBs nearby and their dramatic loss of weight is profound to experience.
If you cannot lift 15.5kg I would recommend adding some weight training to your workouts to
stave off osteoporosis
No need for Harvard. Got plenty of specialists who take care of an Australian record-breaking 47 year old kidney transplant (of which Harvard
does have an interest!), which very long-term immunosuppressive therapy has lead to osteoporosis. The treatment and adjunct therapy like whole-body exercise and mobility is very good. I have staved off/recovered very well with Risedronate once-a-week (gold standard for treatment). Have gained 14% density in hips and 18% in spine, and certainly overnight bushwalking with a pack and carrying a 14kg pack of camera gear has helped.
The e-bike I think you linked is 23.5kg; they are certainly almost double 15kg (esp. Trek's models). Very few people can lift that sort of thing easily; I have seen women with e-bikes summon the conductor on V/Line trains to help them load these bikes on and off!
Re: Benefits to buy e-bikes, but not anything else?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:26 pm
by warthog1