the Crazy eDevice rider thread

[Mr Purple]

Our local Dominos uses a legitimate looking e-bike for their deliveries. Very clearly marked as 'Dominos' with a pizza carrier on the back.

Except I saw their teenage delivery driver riding 60km/hr+ along our very flat street yesterday, lazily turning the pedals over.

Pretty bad when a major company just completely ignores the law.

[Retrobyte]

Our local Dominos uses a legitimate looking e-bike for their deliveries. Very clearly marked as 'Dominos' with a pizza carrier on the back.

Except I saw their teenage delivery driver riding 60km/hr+ along our very flat street yesterday, lazily turning the pedals over.

Pretty bad when a major company just completely ignores the law.

Time is money

[Mr Purple]

Pretty sure 'teenage delivery rider being killed because you supplied them with a highly illegal e-bike' is also money.

Big risk legally.

[antigee]

Pretty sure 'teenage delivery rider being killed because you supplied them with a highly illegal e-bike' is also money.

Big risk legally.

but not to Dominoes - believe most outlets are franchised so pretty sure Dominoes would point the finger at the legal owner(s) of the franchised business with Dominoes' lawyers explaining that all franchisees sign up to operate with in the law

[WyvernRH]

Pretty sure 'teenage delivery rider being killed because you supplied them with a highly illegal e-bike' is also money.

Big risk legally.

Yup, and as I understand it (from a couple of years back) the official Domino's policy is that all their 'fleet' of supplied e-bikes will be totally legal. However, what the local shops or riders do to 'adjust' the legality of the local bikes - who knows....

But you are right, the crap will hit the fan when one of the 'hot' delivery riders kills/injures himself or another person while riding a supplied e-bike. Watch the lawyers and insurance companies leap into action.

Richard

[jasonc]

they haven't gone after uber eats yet. slightly different scenario

[Bunged Knee]

What the???
Maybe only in Scotland.....

E-scooter fitted with exercise bike seized by police

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx24891nz3jo.amp

[Retrobyte]

Today's Sun Herald reports that NSW will soon have laws passed to allow e-scooters on "dedicated bike paths" as long as the rider is wearing a helmet and is over 16yo

[elantra]

Our local Dominos uses a legitimate looking e-bike for their deliveries. Very clearly marked as 'Dominos' with a pizza carrier on the back.

Except I saw their teenage delivery driver riding 60km/hr+ along our very flat street yesterday, lazily turning the pedals over.

Pretty bad when a major company just completely ignores the law.

The other day, at one of those generic shopping centres on the outskirts of Brisbane, I noticed a Pizza outlet (as you do at dinner time )

I honestly cannot remember what “chain” it was, so not sure if it was Dominoes or not.

But what I did notice was a lineup of e-bicycles on a bicycle rack outside.
They were the “old” style of utilitarian e-bicycles with cranks, pedals, a long wheelbase and carrier rack on the back. They appeared to be a bit rusty, a bit cobweby and a bit… unused !

Beside them was a solitary newer, bigger, fat-tyred machine with a more rudimentary “crank and pedals”
And beside was a few empty parking spaces, presumably for the “newer” machines.

I would guess that the “newer” machines are more down the spectrum toward e-motorcycles

[jasonc]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-05/ ... /104526862

shock horror. no consistency of laws. no enforcement of laws. it's the wild west.

[elantra]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-05/ ... /104526862

shock horror. no consistency of laws. no enforcement of laws. it's the wild west.

You’d think that in a big country like Australia with a very mobile population and a fairly strong national ethos that traffic/driving/licensing laws would be a NATIONAL prerogative.

And should have been taken away from being a State Government responsibility YEARS ago !!!
(Perhaps like Health Care should be taken away from the States, because they consistently and ruthlessly cost-shift to Canberra)

It is a real eye-opener to the incompetence that results from a disorganised disaster* response, typical of what happens when multiple layers of government* are involved.

*using the word “disaster” loosely to describe an emerging issue of some significance.
And using the word “government” also loosely to describe an appointed bureaucracy that has a mandate to find solutions to such emerging issues.

I’d better shut up before I start advocating for the abolition of the states.

[jasonc]

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/que ... oter-blitz
sorry about the source

In a Sunshine Coast first, police are using drones to catch brazen youths running rampant with dangerous, illegal e-bike stunts on busy roads.

This comes off the back of residents saying they feared someone would be killed or seriously injured.

In early October, police confirmed they were investigating a number of e-bike and e-scooter incidents on roads at Coolum Beach, Sunshine Beach and Sunrise Beach.
Videos had surfaced online of the outrageously dangerous stunts being performed by youths in traffic, with little to no regard for their safety or the safety of others.

The videos showed youths on e-bikes riding dangerously towards oncoming traffic in a crazy game of chicken, with their friends filming the stunts.
At the weekend, police used drone technology as part of a blitz targeting those on electric bicycles, e-scooters, and motorcycles in Coolum Beach.

During the two-day operation on November 2 and 3, led by Coolum Beach officers with State Road Policing Task Force support, more than 10 e-motorcycles, e-scooters, and e-bicycles were seized.

Sergeant Joel Bryant said police were disappointed with the lack of compliance by electric bicycle, e-scooter, e-skateboard and motorcycle riders.
He said a high number of young offenders were flouting the law.

“Not knowing the road rules of a vehicle or device you are operating, is not a defence,” Sergeant Bryant said.

“Not wearing a helmet, or riding unlicensed, unregistered, and uninsured are the most common offences, however there are also concerning instances of users operating their e-motorcycle, e-scooter, or e-bicycle dangerously and endangering lives.

“Riders are risking serious, life-changing injuries, or worse.
“Many of the e-motorcycle, e-scooter and e-bicycle fatalities in Queensland, have occurred when the riders have been travelling less than 20km per hour.

Drones were used as part of the operation for the first time on the Sunshine Coast, helping gather evidence and tracking offenders.